Comments on: The HP Heisman Watch http://heismanpundit.com/2009/10/05/the-hp-heisman-watch-9/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=the-hp-heisman-watch-9 Breaking Down The Politics Of The Most Prestigious Award In Sports Mon, 21 May 2012 01:02:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Anonymous http://heismanpundit.com/2009/10/05/the-hp-heisman-watch-9/comment-page-1/#comment-11069 Anonymous Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:50:34 +0000 http://heismanpundit.com/?p=3251#comment-11069 uh, where's suh on this list???? best player in the country hands down. uh, where’s suh on this list???? best player in the country hands down.

]]> By: The HP Heisman Watch | Heismanpundit http://heismanpundit.com/2009/10/05/the-hp-heisman-watch-9/comment-page-1/#comment-11049 The HP Heisman Watch | Heismanpundit Mon, 12 Oct 2009 09:28:22 +0000 http://heismanpundit.com/?p=3251#comment-11049 [...] THE HP HEISMAN WATCH (Breaking down the race) [...] [...] THE HP HEISMAN WATCH (Breaking down the race) [...]

]]> By: Dave http://heismanpundit.com/2009/10/05/the-hp-heisman-watch-9/comment-page-1/#comment-11003 Dave Thu, 08 Oct 2009 16:06:25 +0000 http://heismanpundit.com/?p=3251#comment-11003 Great Point Elroy! Notre Dame has played much tougher competition than Florida and Texas. In my opinion it is his to lose since the Weis Offense is going to allow for him to further distance himself from the competition by putting up much better numbers. Let us not forget Clausen was the #1 Recruit in the country a few years ago. He is now a mature team leader and capable of showing off why he was deemed "the Lebron James of College Football" coming out of High School. Clausen is on pace to throw for more yards, TD's, and a higher completion percentage than any of the other contenders. Irish vs. Trojans will be a battle when ND prevails I expect a Heisman will follow and possibly if there is a shakeup a shot at the Title if ND wins out. GO Irish! Beat U$C and you ND haters out there you would be lying if you said you wouldn't like him on your team!!! Great Point Elroy! Notre Dame has played much tougher competition than Florida and Texas. In my opinion it is his to lose since the Weis Offense is going to allow for him to further distance himself from the competition by putting up much better numbers. Let us not forget Clausen was the #1 Recruit in the country a few years ago. He is now a mature team leader and capable of showing off why he was deemed “the Lebron James of College Football” coming out of High School. Clausen is on pace to throw for more yards, TD’s, and a higher completion percentage than any of the other contenders. Irish vs. Trojans will be a battle when ND prevails I expect a Heisman will follow and possibly if there is a shakeup a shot at the Title if ND wins out. GO Irish! Beat U$C and you ND haters out there you would be lying if you said you wouldn’t like him on your team!!!

]]> By: Elroy Kona http://heismanpundit.com/2009/10/05/the-hp-heisman-watch-9/comment-page-1/#comment-10994 Elroy Kona Thu, 08 Oct 2009 02:49:50 +0000 http://heismanpundit.com/?p=3251#comment-10994 It's amusing how the ND haters throw "who's ND played" out there. When ND's strength of schedule is rated more difficult than Texas' and Florida's. ND SOS is 36 accd to Sagarin. Texas is 90 and Florida is 107. So despite ND not having beaten a ranked team, Clausen has faced tougher opponents than Texas and Florida - and McCoy has thrown 5 picks against inferior competition. The pundits should be asking that: why is McCoy off? Why does he look like he did when he went through his sophomore slump? But they're not. Many of the pundits and Heisman voters keep pumping the candidates they highlighted during the preseason. Which is sad because it means you can't admit you were wrong. Truth is, McCoy is not playing great, Tebow is not having a Heisman-quality year, so get over it and consider the worthy candidates. Jimmy Clausen is #1 on that list. It’s amusing how the ND haters throw “who’s ND played” out there. When ND’s strength of schedule is rated more difficult than Texas’ and Florida’s. ND SOS is 36 accd to Sagarin. Texas is 90 and Florida is 107. So despite ND not having beaten a ranked team, Clausen has faced tougher opponents than Texas and Florida – and McCoy has thrown 5 picks against inferior competition. The pundits should be asking that: why is McCoy off? Why does he look like he did when he went through his sophomore slump? But they’re not. Many of the pundits and Heisman voters keep pumping the candidates they highlighted during the preseason. Which is sad because it means you can’t admit you were wrong. Truth is, McCoy is not playing great, Tebow is not having a Heisman-quality year, so get over it and consider the worthy candidates. Jimmy Clausen is #1 on that list.

]]> By: JPH http://heismanpundit.com/2009/10/05/the-hp-heisman-watch-9/comment-page-1/#comment-10984 JPH Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:58:46 +0000 http://heismanpundit.com/?p=3251#comment-10984 Eric Berry. Eric Berry.

]]> By: Ed Newman http://heismanpundit.com/2009/10/05/the-hp-heisman-watch-9/comment-page-1/#comment-10980 Ed Newman Wed, 07 Oct 2009 16:19:07 +0000 http://heismanpundit.com/?p=3251#comment-10980 I think everyone gets there undies in a bunch about voting "entitlements" enjoyed by the front runners. Vote based on current production, they say. But substitute the word "experience" for entitlement and the poll results are more defensible. It's true that Tony Pike and Jimmy Clausen have done more this year so far than McCoy or Tebow. If the real vote were held today I would hope the voters would put those two new guys ahead. But the season isn't half over yet. We don't know if Pike or Clausen is on a hot streak or if they are really good. We already have 3 years of evidence on McCoy and Tebow. We KNOW they are good, even if they haven't (yet) got the stats to back that up this year. So I think it is proper to keep looking at them as the front runners until a lot more of the season plays out. Remember, nothing REALLY matters until that last vote. No one gets hardware for leading week 5 polls. As long as your guy is in the discussion at this point, chill out. I think everyone gets there undies in a bunch about voting “entitlements” enjoyed by the front runners. Vote based on current production, they say. But substitute the word “experience” for entitlement and the poll results are more defensible. It’s true that Tony Pike and Jimmy Clausen have done more this year so far than McCoy or Tebow. If the real vote were held today I would hope the voters would put those two new guys ahead. But the season isn’t half over yet. We don’t know if Pike or Clausen is on a hot streak or if they are really good. We already have 3 years of evidence on McCoy and Tebow. We KNOW they are good, even if they haven’t (yet) got the stats to back that up this year. So I think it is proper to keep looking at them as the front runners until a lot more of the season plays out. Remember, nothing REALLY matters until that last vote. No one gets hardware for leading week 5 polls. As long as your guy is in the discussion at this point, chill out.

]]> By: willhclark http://heismanpundit.com/2009/10/05/the-hp-heisman-watch-9/comment-page-1/#comment-10972 willhclark Wed, 07 Oct 2009 09:09:39 +0000 http://heismanpundit.com/?p=3251#comment-10972 Clausen would not be getting this attention if he was not the NOTRE DAME QB. WHO HAS NOTRE PLAYED AND BEATEN? THEY ARE 4-1 against unranked teams. Overrated! Clausen would not be getting this attention if he was not the NOTRE DAME QB. WHO HAS NOTRE PLAYED AND BEATEN? THEY ARE 4-1 against unranked teams. Overrated!

]]> By: The Heisman Watch and the Heisman Poll | Heismanpundit http://heismanpundit.com/2009/10/05/the-hp-heisman-watch-9/comment-page-1/#comment-10969 The Heisman Watch and the Heisman Poll | Heismanpundit Wed, 07 Oct 2009 06:34:32 +0000 http://heismanpundit.com/?p=3251#comment-10969 [...] THE HP HEISMAN WATCH (Breaking down the race) [...] [...] THE HP HEISMAN WATCH (Breaking down the race) [...]

]]> By: Chris Abate http://heismanpundit.com/2009/10/05/the-hp-heisman-watch-9/comment-page-1/#comment-10966 Chris Abate Wed, 07 Oct 2009 03:45:36 +0000 http://heismanpundit.com/?p=3251#comment-10966 What is the entitlement factor with the Heisman? What has Colt McCoy or Tim Tebow done from a quarterback perspective compared to Clausen and Harris? These guys, especially Jimmy, are leading their teams to wins in big time QB fashion. Florida and Texas have played no one. I *GET* that McCoy is the "front runner" but that is clearly entitlement and team ranking and not real numbers (which don't compare to Clausen statistically) or big time wins (Clausen leads the nation in touchdowns thrown when a team is losing in the last two minutes of the 4th quarter). Harris is also playing above and beyond. Tebow.... can an NFL tight end really win the Heisman twice? Really? What is the entitlement factor with the Heisman? What has Colt McCoy or Tim Tebow done from a quarterback perspective compared to Clausen and Harris? These guys, especially Jimmy, are leading their teams to wins in big time QB fashion. Florida and Texas have played no one. I *GET* that McCoy is the “front runner” but that is clearly entitlement and team ranking and not real numbers (which don’t compare to Clausen statistically) or big time wins (Clausen leads the nation in touchdowns thrown when a team is losing in the last two minutes of the 4th quarter). Harris is also playing above and beyond. Tebow…. can an NFL tight end really win the Heisman twice? Really?

]]> By: corkdork http://heismanpundit.com/2009/10/05/the-hp-heisman-watch-9/comment-page-1/#comment-10942 corkdork Tue, 06 Oct 2009 12:54:09 +0000 http://heismanpundit.com/?p=3251#comment-10942 It's interesting watching the race this year; I'm a big Keenum fan (hey, I'm an alum, so I'm expected to root for "our guy"), and it's interesting watching McCoy get all the glory despite the fact that Keenum's put up better numbers, and occasionally against the same competition. But, a loss to UTEP and being a non-AQ quarterback means it'll be 2010 or nothing for him. And us UH fans have to deal with Andre Ware as our legacy for another year. At least Kolb is doing good things in the NFL for us to enjoy :) It’s interesting watching the race this year; I’m a big Keenum fan (hey, I’m an alum, so I’m expected to root for “our guy”), and it’s interesting watching McCoy get all the glory despite the fact that Keenum’s put up better numbers, and occasionally against the same competition.

But, a loss to UTEP and being a non-AQ quarterback means it’ll be 2010 or nothing for him. And us UH fans have to deal with Andre Ware as our legacy for another year. At least Kolb is doing good things in the NFL for us to enjoy :)

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