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We had three leaders coming into the season, and with Bradford checking out due to injury, and McCoy not shining as bright as they thought he would, that should leave at least Tim Tebow still standing.  (And I am not really arguing that McCoy should really be out of it either, but everyone who has a vote has been pretty much ignoring him).
 
I am also okay if a few other players have gotten into the mix as I certainly don’t want the award determined before the season even starts. 
 
However, for anyone to act as if Tim Tebow is NOT the man to beat, or that anyone else in the country is as good of a player as he is, leads me to only one conclusion, and that is that they really just don’t want to see him win it twice.  After all, as of right now, if you had Tebow near the top of your list at the beginning of the season, then he should still be there as he hasn’t done anything to remove himself.

Travis

I agree, Travis.  There are a lot of people out there who don’t want to see Tim Tebow win it twice.  But it makes it easier for them to deny him when he isn’t dominating like he used to.  In that regard, he’s sort of the victim of his own success.  In the end, it may not come down to what he has or hasn’t done, but what others have or haven’t done by comparison.  It doesn’t matter right now who leads the race, so I agree there’s really no reason to say that Tebow should be eliminated.  As long as Heisman voters think he’s the man, that’s all that matters. It’s their prerogative.  I compare guys like Tebow and McCoy to a couple of popular, critically-acclaimed television shows.  We know the past seasons were fantastic, so even though the current season doesn’t quite have the same plot twists, we still tune in thinking it has the potential to be good.  So we keep watching and waiting for the season to get better.  If the finale doesn’t wow us, we can still change the channel to a new show (or a different player, so to speak).

HP:
 
If you look at Archie Griffin’s second Heisman season and the season Tim Tebow is having now, the similarities are starting to show.
 
If Florida keeps winning, the theme of the season will be his, and UF’s quest as a whole, to keep adding to their place amongst the greats of an era.

Vince

I agree that if Tebow is going to win, it will likely not be for his statistics, but rather his ability to connect with Heisman voters via his leadership and unique skill set (not to mention his team maybe going undefeated).  Personally, though, I don’t think it’s going to be enough.  It wasn’t enough last year, so why would it be this year?  I think that Heisman voters prefer to vote for the fresh face when given a chance.  It’s one of the reasons winning two Heismans is so difficult.

I’ll post soon on the comparisons between Tebow ’09 and Griffin ’75, though.

“Why Not Me?” – The more I think about what the ESPN announcers said towards the end of the UT/CU game, the more I am starting to see the light –  Why shouldn’t Jordan Shipley be in the mix for the Heisman?  Right now, he leads all Div I WRs with 47 receptions; he is 3rd in yardage; and he has 3 WR TDs & 2 special teams TDs.  The yardage is misleading because the two WRs (GT’s Thomas and UGA’s Green have both played six games to Jordan’s five).  With that said, Jordan is tops in two out of three categories less than halfway into the season.  Moreover, who can argue that Jordan isn’t one of the more feared punt returners in the NCAA right now?  Aside from Green, what team comes to mind with a bonafide “this team loses if this WR is shutdown” besides Texas and Shipley?  Unless there is some six-year player rule I am not aware of, Shipley AND Colt both deserve the consideration & support of the school to put both players into the PR mix.  Now while there could be a danger of a Leinart/Bush-type splitting of the votes, I think that by Thanksgiving, it should be clearer as to which player is having a more Heisman-like season between Colt and Jordan. At that point, you have to put your chips behind the one with the better chance.  I think Colt will go down as one of the best quarterbacks in the history of the Texas Longhorns & if he picks up a notch against the rank teams he is facing over the next three weeks, then Colt should be leading the Heisman pack.  However, if Colt thinks Jordan is first option for him in the passing game, why should we as Longhorns’ fans think any less of Jordan’s chance to represent us on the national stage?  I’m just sayin’….

Robert

Good point.  Although I think Shipley would have to really go off the rest of the season to have a shot and it might be hard to do so without McCoy also playing well.  And if McCoy does that, he’s the one likely to win.  One thing about Shipley:  He also returns punts and kicks and that goes a long way.  However, he doesn’t have the resume or name recognition of the other candidates and at this late stage, it’s hard to see him catching up.  I can see him finishing in the top 10, but I think he has a better shot at the Biletnikoff.

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2 Responses to Mail Bag

  1. Ed Newman October 14, 2009 at 6:55 am #

    “There are a lot of people out there who don’t want to see Tim Tebow win it twice. But it makes it easier for them to deny him when he isn’t dominating like he used to. ”

    I’m starting to question the validity of the assumption that there are all that many people who don’t want to see a player win twice, particularly as it relates to Tebow. There hasn’t been any voter I’ve read or heard who has stated this or even inferred it in a veiled way this year. Your Heisman Poll has had Tebow at or near the top each week of the season. Most of the other experts have him at or near the top as well. It’s certainly not based on his stats which are mediocre. If there really were that many anti two-timers out there why isn’t it showing up in polls and articles?

    I agree that if there was a truly worthy candidate out there right now, Tebow would be trailing the race. I think that Colt might be the one guy out there who would get the nod over Tebow if all things are equal since he easily could have won the award last year and didn’t (Colt isn’t holding up his end right now though. He simply is not having that great a year so far. And he is about to face Big 12 competition that is widely perceived as having fallen off quite a bit from last year). I’m starting to believe that if Tebow is essentially even with anyone else that he will win his second award.

  2. philnotfil October 14, 2009 at 12:14 pm #

    Tebow isn’t a victim of his own success so much as he is a victim of Florida’s defense’s success. In 2007 the defense gave up 25.5 points per game. Meyer has somehow acquired a reputation for running up the score, but he really does ease off against teams that he doesn’t think can score on his defense. Tebow’s 2007 statistics are in part because Meyer was trying to put up as many points as possible to make up for all the points the defense was allowing.
    This year the defense is only giving up 6.4 points per game and Meyer is playing much more conservatively on offense. He knows that all the Gators have to do this year is win every game. No matter how ugly the wins are, as long as they are undefeated at the end of the year they are playing for the championship. They pound the ball and don’t throw long. Ugly and effective, and if Tebow doesn’t win the Heisman this year, that will be a big part of it.