Two-deep and recruiting class evaluation: Texas A&M Aggies

Continuing my summer homework, here’s the next deep dive into a two deep and recruiting class, this time Texas A&M’s. Since the Aggies and Alabama play each other early, this eval pairs well with that of the Crimson Tide’s down below.

Again, let’s get a few things in order before you read these evals. It’s very important to read this if you want to understand where I’m coming from.

1. Rather than rank someone with a nebulous star rating or a happy face, I am applying an NFL draft grade to them since this is a metric that many of us understand. To be clear, when I write that someone is a first-round talent, I am not predicting that they will be selected in the first round of the draft (though some certainly will). What I am saying is that this player has physical ability commensurate with players who are typically drafted in the first round. The same standard applies with other denominations by round.

2. The two deeps, heights and weights are taken from either the school’s web site or from Rivals.com. If you quibble with who I have on the depth chart, I have no answer for you. Some of the recruit lists might not include late signees or it might include guys who won’t qualify or will grayshirt. Just take the evals for what they are in that case.

3. The purpose of these evals are to give myself and the HP audience an insight into the raw talent levels of the schools in question. Coaching and scheme are not taken into account.

4. I did not look at anyone else’s evals when doing my own evals. I did not look at stats. I did not read what coaches had to say. I did not peek to see how many or which schools offered a given recruit. In other words, I avoided outside influences as much as possible and basically just looked at as much tape as was available and made my call.

5. I know evaluations of this nature are controversial. Some of you are going to vehemently disagree with some of them. Some of you will wonder what my qualifications are for making them. All I ask is that you put my evaluations to the test in the coming seasons and we’ll see how accurate I was. In the meantime, I welcome any insights or helpful comments on these players.

6. In some cases, for speed’s sake, my evals are very brief, especially with players who I don’t need to evaluate further. Johnny Manziel? We all know about him. I don’t waste much words adding to what we already know. In other cases, I have limited or bad tape on a player and have to make a snap eval based on what I am able to see.

7. When I have all my evaluations, I will rank the teams and players according to talent level and also overall.

And here we go:

 

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Terms: COD = Change of direction; FBI = Football instincts; Pass Pro=pass protection; YAC=yards after catch

(Starters are bolded)

OFFENSE

2 – Johnny Manziel, 5-11, 185, SO, QB

No eval needed. 1st round talent.

6 – Matt Davis, 6-1, 202, RS FR, QB

Great athlete, strong runner, big arm but not very accurate. 3rd round talent.

 

1 – Ben Malena, 5-9, 195, SR, RB

Squat low to ground runner with good balance and strength. 6th round talent.

20 – Trey Williams, 5-8, 200, SO, RB

Squat runner with good burst, lacks long speed, but great receiver and playmaker. 3rd round talent.

 

13- Mike Evans, 6-5, 190, RS SO, WR

Physically dominant pass catcher with good speed for his size. Great hands in traffic. 2nd round talent.

11 – Derel Walker, 6-2, 185, SR, WR

Good not great speed. Not much wiggle. Good athlete who can go high for the ball. Late round talent.

 

18 – Edward Pope, 6-4, 170, SO WR

Very good athlete. No top end speed. Light in the ass. Mid Round Talent.

4 – JaQuay Williams, 6-3, 210, FR, WR

Big fast WR with good hips, chops his steps a bit but very good speed for size. 2nd round talent.

 

23 – Sabian Holmes, 5-11, 175, SO WR

Lightning quick water bug with great YAC and vision. 4th round talent.

88 – Gaston Lamascus – 5-6, 182, SR, WR

Walk-on. No film available.

 

84 – Malcome Kennedy – 6-0, 197, JR, WR

Tough possession receiver with good hands. Late round talent.

10 – LeKendrick. Williams – 5-8, 170, JR, WR

Quick smurf without top end. Great YAC, COD and vision. Mid round talent.

 

75 – Jake Matthews – 6-5, 305 LT

He’s a Matthews. Tough, smart and athletic. Great football player. 1st round talent.

73- Jeremiah Stuckey – 6-7, 290 LT

Superb athlete. Lifts his knees and runs well. Great lateral ability and quick feet. 1st round talent.

 

70 – Cedric Ogbuehi – 6-5, 292, RT

Freak athlete. Big, strong and bouncy. Knee bender. 1st round talent.

71 – Joseph Cheek, 6-7, 271, RT

Average athlete. Sluggish. Late round talent.

 

51 – Jarvis Harrison, 6-4, 330 LG

Big strong road grading guard who pass protects well. 4th round talent.

77 – Shep Klinke – 6-7, 305, LG

Fluid athlete, broad body who should fill out to 330. Should play RT. 3rd Round Talent

 

74 – Germain Ifedi – 6-5, 304, RG

Big bouncy guard with quick feet who can play in traffic. Good balance. 3rd round Talent.

68 – Ben Compton – 6-4, 310 RG/C

Average athlete. Better in run game than pass game. Late round talent.

 

56 – Mike Matthews – 6-3, 260, C

Undersized but a Matthews so knows what he is doing out there. 3rd round talent.

 

DEFENSE

 

72 – Gavin Stansbury – 6-4, 265, JR, DE

Decent athlete, plays too upright, not explosive, average FBI, late round talent.

Jordan Points – 6-3, 260, FR, SDE

Plays with good leverage, quick feet, decent COD, a bit stiff but runs well. Strong. Could play a lot early. Maybe eventual DT. Mid-round talent.

 

95 – Julian Obioha, 6-4, 255, SO, DE

Physically mature. Good closing speed on QB. Good COD. Good frame. Solid athlete. Mid round talent.

35 – Tyrell Taylor – 6-4, 215, JR, DE

Fantastic athlete with great wingspan, outstanding COD, incredible burst, a freak. Just needs to get bigger. Whoever gave this guy 2 stars should be fired. 1st round talent.

 

42 – Kirby Ennis – 6-4, 300, SR, DT

Good athlete, plays low, very strong, Mid-round talent

Isaiah Golden – 6-2, 300, FR, DT

Crazy athlete for his size. Can really run. Plays with good leverage. Good COD. First round talent.

 

55 – Alonzo Williams – 6-4, 250, SO, DT

Good athlete. Very good pass rusher. A bit stiff in the hips. Great frame. Good COD and very physical. 4th round talent.

Justin Manning – 6-2, 280, FR, DT

Incredibly quick with excellent feet. Great FBI. Plays with great leverage and good hand technique. Refined. Undersized but 2nd round talent.

 

Tommy Sanders – 6-2, 216, JR, LB

Crazy fast freak. Excellent athlete, with superb COD. Tough and physical. Tracks the ball well. Good FBI. Undersized. 1st round talent.

Brett Wade – 6-1, 225, FR, OLB

Good athlete. Physical. Mouth-to-mouth tackler. Takes on blocks. Good FBI. A bit stiff. Mid-round talent.

 

45 – Steven Jenkins, 6-2, 220, SR, LB

Big hitter, good straight line speed and burst, can go sideline-to-sideline, decent athlete who chops his strides. 3rd round talent.

9 – Nate Askew – 6-4, 223, SR, LB

Skilled. Runs well for his size. Former WR. Not physical. Hard to evaluate at this stage. Late round talent.

 

36 – Donnie Baggs – 6-1, 230, JR, LB

Can really run. Redirects well. Physical despite being undersized. Good in coverage. Good FBI. 3rd round talent.

40 – Shaun Ward – 6-2, 240, JR, LB

Incredibly quick. Great COD. Uses his hands well. Can take on blocks. 2nd round talent.

 

29 – DeShazor Everett – 6-0, 170, JR, CB

Tough, physical type better suited for safety. Good tackler. Good FBI. Boundary corner. Mid-round talent.

Noel Ellis – 5-10, 175, FR, CB

Undersized. Not a blazer. Good hips and COD. Decent ball skills. Boundary corner. Late round talent.

 

1 – De’Vante Harris – 5-10, 160, SO, CB

Lanky, high-split cover corner. Natural and fluid. Can turn and run well. Very good closing speed and excellent cover skills. Not physically strong. 3rd round talent

7 – Tramain Jacobs – 6-1, 180, SR, CB

Not fast twitch. Good FBI. Average speed and size. Free agent talent.

 

14 – Floyd Raven – 6-2, 190, JR, S

Hard nosed defender with great closing speed and COD. Good athlete. Solid in coverage. 3rd round talent.

4 – Toney Hurd – 5-9, 190, SR, S (nickel)

Big hitter. Great in run support and blitzing. Solid in coverage. Playmaker. Mid-round talent.

 

31 – Howard Matthews – 6-2, 206, JR, S

Good size. Not very fast. Average athlete. Good FBI. Late round talent.

25 – Clay Honeycutt – 6-2, 200, JR, S

Good size. Solid athlete. Late round talent.

 

2013 Recruiting Class

 

Joas Aguilar – 6-5, 295, OL

Pretty good athlete. Plays with good leverage. Good natural strength. Best suited for Right Tackle or Left Guard. Mid-Round talent.

 

Jay Arnold – 6-5, 235, DE

Average athlete. Averege COD. A grinder. Free agent talent.

 

Reggie Chevis – 6-2, 240, LB

Already physically developed. Excellent straight line speed. Decent COD. Quality athlete. Middle backer. Mid-Round Talent.

 

Darian Claiborne – 6-1, 225 LB

Average athlete. Better than average speed. Takes on blocks well. Good strength. Late round talent.

 

Cameron Clear – 6-6, 285, TE

Pretty good athlete for his size. Decent blocker. Very raw, as if he’s never been coached. Mid-round talent.

 

Victor Davis — 6-1, 180, S

Average athlete. Average speed. Can’t run. Average FBI. Free agent talent.

 

Noel Ellis – 5-10, 175, FR, CB

Undersized. Not a blazer. Good hips and COD. Decent ball skills. Boundary corner. Late round talent.

 

Tavares Garner – 6-0, 170, CB-S

Best suited for free safety or boundary corner. Average speed. Decent athlete but a bit stiff in hips. Good FBI, plays assignment football.  Late round talent.

 

Isaiah Golden – 6-2, 300, FR, DT

Crazy athlete for his size. Can really run. Plays with good leverage. Good COD. First round talent.

 

Laquvionte Gonzalez – 5-10, 150, WR

Very fast straight line speed, but not elite speed. A bit stiff, but still dangerous in space and makes plays. Good FBI. Good ST player. Undersized.  Mid-round talent.

 

Daeshon Hall – 6-6, 240, DE

Raw talent. Great frame. Runs well for his size. Good COD. Fluid athlete. Needs coaching, but bright future. 2nd round talent.

 

Kenny Hill – 6-1, 202, QB

Great athlete, dynamic runner, big arm, good release. 3rd round talent.

 

Sebastian Larue – 5-10, 175, WR

Quick playmaker, great vision. Doesn’t have elite speed, but dangerous in space. Great ball skills. Good hands. Good return man. Small. Mid-round talent.

 

Justin Manning – 6-2, 280, FR, DT

Incredibly quick with excellent feet. Great FBI. Plays with great leverage and good hand technique. Refined. Undersized but 2nd round talent.

 

Jordan Mastrogiovanni – 6-3, 225, LB

Good athlete. Good COD. Good FBI. Good hands. Takes on blocks. Very good MLB prospect. 3rd round talent.

 

Kameron Miles – 6-2, 200 S

Doesn’t run well. Long strider. Solid athlete, but lacks FBI. Raw. Late round talent.

 

Kyrion Parker – 6-3, 185, WR

Good athlete who runs well for his size. Has speed to go over the top. Runs a bit stiff but can get small and knife his way between defenders. Good YAC. 3rd round talent.

 

Jordan Points – 6-3, 260, FR, SDE

Plays with good leverage, quick feet, decent COD, a bit stiff but runs well. Strong. Could play a lot early. Maybe eventual DT. Mid-round talent.

 

Tommy Sanders – 6-2, 216, JR, LB

Crazy fast freak. Excellent athlete, with superb COD. Tough and physical. Tracks the ball well. Good FBI. Undersized. 1st round talent.

 

Ricky Seals-Jones – 6-5, 230, WR

Big, strong athlete who runs well for his size. Good flexibility. Unrefined WR. Uses body well. 2nd round talent.

 

Alex Sezer – 5-10, 170 ATH

Decent athlete, undersized, chops his steps, lots of motion for not much output. Free agent talent.

 

Jeremiah Stuckey – 6-7, 290 LT

Superb athlete. Lifts his knees and runs well. Great lateral ability and quick feet. 1st round talent.

 

Jeremy Tabuyo – 5-10, 170 WR

Very quick little smurf receiver. Catches the ball well. Good route runner.  Mid round talent.

 

Brett Wade – 6-1, 225, FR, OLB

Good athlete. Physical. Mouth-to-mouth tackler. Takes on blocks. Good FBI. A bit stiff. Mid-round talent.

 

Hardreck Walker – 6-2, 290, DT

Big body who plays a bit stiff and upright. Good straight line speed. Decent COD. Very strong. Mid-round talent.

 

Shaan Washington – 6-3, 210, ATH

Average athlete. Good FBI. Will probably play outside backer. Runs just okay. Free agent talent.

 

James White – 6-0, 190 RB

Average speed, decent zone runner, has to wind up to cutback. Average athlete. Free agent talent.

 

Jonathan Wiggins – 6-3, 210 ATH

Doesn’t run well. Average athlete. Will play LB. Free agent talent.

 

JaQuay Williams, 6-3, 210, WR

Big fast WR with good hips, chops his steps a bit but very good speed for size. 2nd round talent.

 

Ishmael Wilson – 6-5, 275, OL

Above average athlete. Bends his knees well. Has good feet. Plays with good leverage. Very strong.  Should play guard. Mid round talent.

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19 Responses to Two-deep and recruiting class evaluation: Texas A&M Aggies

  1. Saggitariutt Jefferspin July 29, 2013 at 11:23 am #

    Some of your evals were on target. Golden, RSJ, Jake and Johnny are all obviously talented.

    Some of your other evals (lots of them) were apparently done while you were transitioning on acid, or in the midst of a heroin bender. Keep chasing the dragon.

  2. Heismanpundit July 29, 2013 at 11:28 am #

    The great thing about the internet is that I am on record and if I’m right/wrong, I can be held accountable.

    I’d be interested in hearing where you think I’m wrong/on acid. It’s one thing to knock someone else’s evals in a vague manner, but would you care to go on record or make your own evals?

  3. AnonC July 29, 2013 at 11:40 am #

    Most of your heights and weights are way off. Stucky is closer to 6’3″ than 6’7″. Mike Evans is also 225, not 190.

    I would start with those to get a more accurate listing. AggieAthletics.com updated their roster recently if you want a source.

  4. Heismanpundit July 29, 2013 at 11:45 am #

    The heights and weights are less important than the evals. I point out in my disclaimer above that I can’t attest to the accuracy of listed heights and weights.

    • AnonC July 29, 2013 at 12:03 pm #

      Ok, but after knowing Stucky is at best 6’4″, then he’s no longer a 1st round talent.

      Also, Mike Evans speed looks alot better at 225 than 190.

      So yeah, weight and height can throw your evaluations off.

      Some of the others just seem absurd. The back ILB has more talent than the starter? The same backup that is the same age as the starter?

      A 5’8″ shrimp WR (that’s actually closer to 5’5″) that has no chance to be a starter is a mid round talent?

      Need to do your homework better.

      • HP July 29, 2013 at 12:22 pm #

        Stuckey doesn’t have to be 6-7 to be a first round talent. His athleticism still exists at 6-5.

        Evans I have as a 2nd round talent. His speed and flexibility aren’t quite in 1st round territory.

        All I ask is that you wait and see how the evals turn out. Obviously, not all of them will be spot on. No one is 100% perfect in evals.

  5. Chris July 29, 2013 at 11:48 am #

    Good list. You’re putting some WORK into these! I noticed Brandon Williams was absent from this list. He may very well be the best RB in a STOCKED backfield. I’m expecting him to have a big year.

    • HP July 29, 2013 at 12:33 pm #

      Could be. I only went two-deep though. Had to draw a line somewhere.

  6. Fathertsaw July 29, 2013 at 12:02 pm #

    Agree with Jefferspin. Good analysis overall, especially on the ’13 recruits, since it is tough to put a grade on a recruit who hasn’t played a down in college.

    A few large mis-steps:

    “Trey williams: lacks long speed” – Wow. Trey is one of the fasted backs in the nation, probably top 5 in the country. Has been clocked sub 4.3 and nearly took a kick off the distance vs a very fast LSU team as a freshman in 2012.

    “Victor Davis: Average speed. Average Athlete. Can’t run” He has been heralded all spring/ summer as one of the best athletes of the whole 2013 reruiting class. Has great size and speed. Down the road could be a top round talent. Same goes for Shaan Washington.

    “Laquivionte Gonzales: Stiff, not elite speed” Couldn’t be more wrong. One of the most fluid athletes in space you will ever see. On tape he doesnt get touched on about 90% of his runs. One of the fastest players to come out of texas in years

    Like I said though, overall. not bad

    • Heismanpundit July 29, 2013 at 12:37 pm #

      Thanks. A couple notes:

      – We’ll have to agree to disagree on Williams. He’s more quick than fast. Short legs and his build do him him.

      – Re: Gonzales I said he was a bit stiff. We are talking about degrees of stiffness, not in absolute terms.

      One thing to remember is that every player has some flaws and just because I point them out does not mean those flaws are what comprise a player’s entire skill set.

  7. Saggitariutt Jefferspin July 29, 2013 at 12:12 pm #

    Speaking as someone that sees the world through maroon colored glasses, you have several of these guys WILDLY OVERRATED. It’s atrocious and readily apparent that you either didn’t watch them play, don’t know what you’re doing, or both. I’ll leave it at that.

    Conversely…..

    You can’t watch Laquvionte Gonzalez’s game tape and knock him for speed or stiffness. He’s insanely talented. Victor Davis was a very good track athlete. James White will be outstanding. Cameron Clear is a freak, but in reality might be better playing LT at some point. You didn’t watch a single second of Noel Ellis’ game tape, did you?

    • Heismanpundit July 29, 2013 at 12:38 pm #

      Thanks for your comment. Keep in mind that I’m not predicting where these guys will be drafted, but merely describing their physical skill set.

      I do like Gonzalez but he’s not a perfect player.

      Every player I evaluated I watched tape on.

  8. Jumpin July 29, 2013 at 12:21 pm #

    “40 – Shaun Ward – 6-2, 240, JR, LB

    Incredibly quick. Great COD. Uses his hands well. Can take on blocks. 2nd round talent.”

    “73- Jeremiah Stuckey – 6-7, 290 LT

    Superb athlete. Lifts his knees and runs well. Great lateral ability and quick feet. 1st round talent.”

    LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLZ

    ….Is this satire?

    • Heismanpundit July 29, 2013 at 12:40 pm #

      Jumpin, I’m not sure what the LOL is about.

      Keep in mind, these are evals that look at physical ability. The draft grades are not predictions of where they will be drafted, but merely a metric to quantify their talent.

      If Stuckey fails as a player, it will not be because he lacks physical ability, in other words.

  9. Chris July 29, 2013 at 1:49 pm #

    I’m confused by the way you throw around the athlete description. Is there a sliding scale based on position and size? If not, I really don’t understand how you have Stuckey as a superb athlete and Sezer as a decent one. Sezer is one of the best athletes from the 2013 class, but he is a very raw player still.

  10. Heismanpundit July 29, 2013 at 3:05 pm #

    Chris, it’s all about looking at overall fluidity, feet, speed and change of direction.

    Size is definitely a factor. To see Stuckey move how he does at that size is impressive. Whether he can put it together as an actual player remains to be seen.

  11. CAD July 29, 2013 at 8:58 pm #

    I’m curious about one of your abbreviations. I know I should get it, and maybe it will come to me later, but what does COD mean?

  12. HP August 1, 2013 at 7:22 pm #

    Cad, it means Change of Direction. There’s a guide up top to abbreviations.

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