Two-Deep and Recruiting Class Evaluation: LSU Tigers

Continuing my summer homework, here’s the next deep dive into a two deep and recruiting class, this time  LSU’s. You can see Alabama’s and Texas A&M’s evals here and here.

Again, let’s get a few things in order before you read these evals. It’s very important to read this if you want to understand where I’m coming from.

1. Rather than rank someone with a nebulous star rating or a happy face, I am applying an NFL draft grade to them since this is a metric that many of us understand. To be clear, when I write that someone is a first-round talent, I am not predicting that they will be selected in the first round of the draft (though some certainly will). What I am saying is that this player has physical ability commensurate with players who are typically drafted in the first round. The same standard applies with other denominations by round.

2. The two deeps, heights and weights are taken from either the school’s web site or from Rivals.com. If you quibble with who I have on the depth chart, I have no answer for you. Some of the recruit lists might not include late signees or it might include guys who won’t qualify or will grayshirt. Just take the evals for what they are in that case.

3. The purpose of these evals are to give myself and the HP audience an insight into the raw talent levels of the schools in question. Coaching and scheme are not taken into account.

4. I did not look at anyone else’s evals when doing my own evals. I did not look at stats. I did not read what coaches had to say. I did not peek to see how many or which schools offered a given recruit. In other words, I avoided outside influences as much as possible and basically just looked at as much tape as was available and made my call.

5. I know evaluations of this nature are controversial. Some of you are going to vehemently disagree with some of them. Some of you will wonder what my qualifications are for making them. All I ask is that you put my evaluations to the test in the coming seasons and we’ll see how accurate I was. In the meantime, I welcome any insights or helpful comments on these players.

6. In some cases, for speed’s sake, my evals are very brief, especially with players who I don’t need to evaluate further. A guy like Johnny Manziel? We all know about him. I don’t waste much words adding to what we already know. In other cases, I have limited or bad tape on a player and have to make a snap eval based on what I am able to see.

7. When I have all my evaluations, I will rank the teams and players according to talent level and also overall.

And here we go:

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Terms: COD = Change of direction; FBI = Football instincts; Pass Pro=pass protection; YAC=yards after catch

(Projected starters are bolded)

OFFENSE

8 – Zach Mettenberger – 6-5, 230, SR, QB

Great size, decent athlete, really strong arm, three-quarters release that often becomes side-arm, not very accurate or consistent, sloppy mechanics. 3rd round talent.

17 – Stephen Rivers – 6-8, 225, SO, QB

Really tall but well put-together, good feet and athleticism for his size, has a javelin-like release. Average arm strength. Average accuracy. Late round talent.

 33 – Jeremy Hill – 6-2, 235, SO, RB

Power back with some giddy-up, runs too upright at times, good burst to second level, not much wiggle but not strictly a one-cut runner,either. tough workhorse. 2nd round talent.

27 – Kenny Hilliard – 6-0, 231, JR, RB

Amazingly light on his feet for a big power back. Smooth and fluid in his movements. Great hips. Not especially powerful given his size. A little out of shape. 2nd round talent.

3 – Odell Beckham – 6-0, 187, JR, WR

Good all-around player. Great YAC. Makes first defender miss. Not special physically in any one area but few weaknesses. Catches well in traffic. Good PR. 2nd round talent.

83 – Travin Dural – 6-2, 170, FR, WR

Good athlete but not very fast or explosive. Long strider. Lacks some fluidity in hips when he cuts. Good FBI. Late round talent.

 80 – Jarvis Landry – 6-1, 195, JR, WR

Acrobatic pass catcher with great hands. Physical and willing blocker. Not a burner. Possession guy. Mid-round talent.

86 – Kadron Boone – 6-0, 195, SR, WR

Thickly built. Almost like a running back. A bit stiff in the hips. Average COD. Basket catcher at times. Late round talent.

41 – Travis Dickson – 6-2, 230, JR, TE

Good feet. Decent burst. Undersized H-back type. Solid blocker in space. Upright runner with some stiffness. Free agent talent.

48 – Dillon Gordon – 6-4, 265, FR, TE

Impressive looking athlete. Very raw. Good inline blocker but unrefined as pass catcher. Runs well and is fluid, but poor FBI. Third-round talent.

 70 – La’El Collins – 6-5, 321, JR, LT

Big strong guy with a good base but doesn’t bend his knees well enough and has stiffness in his hips. Better suited for guard. Good balance/lateral movement. Third-round talent.

65 – Jerald Hawkins – 6-6, 290, FR, LT

Great frame. Long arms. Natural knee bender. Good athlete. Some stiffness in upper body. Mid round talent.

78 – Vadal Alexander – 6-6, 350, SO, RT

Good feet. Fairly athletic, quick off ball, knee bender, gets to second level and redirects well. Very strong road grader type. 2nd round talent.

66 – Derek Edinburgh – 6-8, 325, FR, RT

Bit of a waist bender, but athletic for his size. Redirects well. A bit raw and slow of the ball. Needs to get stronger. Mid round talent.

74 – Josh Williford – 6-7, 332, SR, LG

Big strong road grader. Average athlete. Late round talent.

71 – Jonah Austin – 6-5, 322, FR, LG

Good feet but not a knee bender. Strong with long arms and good punch. Mid round talent.

56 – Trai Turner – 6-3, 306, SO, RG

Big wide-bodied road grader, long arms. Good athlete. 3rd round talent.

60 – Fehoko Fanaika – 6-6, 340, JR, RG

Outstanding athlete. Should be on the left side. Incredible burst off the ball. Fluid in the joints, a knee bender. 1st round talent.

55 – Elliott Porter – 6-5, 278, JR, C

Decent athlete. Doesn’t redirect well. Not a knee bender. Late round talent.

77 – Ethan Pocic – 6-7, 285, FR, C

Great frame. Good athlete. Fluid knee bender with long arms. Best suited for left tackle. 1st round talent.

DEFENSE

98 – Jordan Allen – 6-6, 252, JR, DE

Great frame. Long arms. Average COD. Good straight-line speed. Strong at point of attack. Mid-round talent.

94 – Danielle Hunter – 6-5 235, SO, DE

Fantastic athlete. All arms and legs. Great hips and very fluid. Lifts his knees. Light in the ass. 1st round talent.

59 – Jermauria Rasco – 6-3, 255, JR, DE

Good speed. Good COD. Active hands. Well put together. A bit stiff in the hips. 3rd round talent.

22 – Ronnie Feist – 6-2, 225, SO, DE

Good athlete. Runs well. Very raw. Average FBI. Tough and undersized. Mid-round talent.

9 – Ego Ferguson – 6-3, 308, JR, DT

Outstanding athlete. Good COD. Explosive off the ball. Strong. Good physique. Good at point of attack. 1st round talent.

91 – Christian LaCouture – 6-5, 290, FR, DT

Good athlete. Can bend at the waist, very flexible. Very good COD. Smart player who tracks the ball well. Third-round talent.

90 – Anthony Johnson, 6-3, 310, JR, DT

Special athlete. Great COD. Can really run. Strong and plays with leverage. 1st round talent.

95 – Quentin Thomas – 6-3, 279, SO, DT

Runs well. Plays upright. Not very explosive. Mid-round talent.

58 – Tahj Jones – 6-2, 205, SR, LB

Great athlete. Phenomenal in space. Superb COD. Can really run. Undersized. 2nd round talent.

25 – Kwon Alexander – 6-2, 220, SO, LB

Remarkably fluid, explosive, great COD, good FBI. Great closing speed. Great in space. Active player with good hands. Skilled. 1st round talent.

57 – Lamin Barrow – 6-2, 230, SR, LB

Decent athlete. Hard-nosed, strong. Sure tackler. Doesn’t always take on blocks. Mid-round talent.

35 – Lorenzo Phillips – 6-2, 200, FR, LB

Great athlete. Explosive. Runs like shot out of cannon. Great lateral ability, moves well in space. Undersized. 1st round talent.

31 – DJ Welter – 6-0, 230, JR, LB

Decent athlete. Not very big or strong. Takes bad pursuit angles at times. Doesn’t always take on blocks. Free agent talent.

23 – Lamar Louis – 6-0, 220, SO, LB

Good athlete. Good FBI. Good looking prospect. 3rd round talent.

32 – Jalen Collins – 6-1, 184, SO, CB

Spindly, long-armed, long-legged, high cut, very good athlete. Good length and leaping ability. Boundary corner. 3rd round talent.

19 – Derrick Raymond – 6-0, 175, FR, CB

Shorter than listed. Great hips and feet. Turns and runs well. Good closing speed. 3rd round talent.

36 – Jalen Mills – 6-0, 180, SO , CB

Great feet and hips. Turns and runs well. Good closing speed. 2nd round talent.

13 – Dwayne Thomas – 6-0, 175, FR, CB

Average speed. Good hips. Late round talent.

6 – Craig Loston – 6-2, 205, SR, S

Freak athlete. Great straight line speed. Big hitter. Physical. Sometimes gets lost in space and in coverage. Best in run support. 1st round talent.

12 – Corey Thompson – 6-2, 210, SO, S

Great speed. Incredible range. Good in coverage and run support. 2nd round talent.

26 – Ronald Martin – 6-1, 199, JR, S

Decent athlete. Good FBI. Mid-round talent.

43 – Jerquinick Sandolph – 6-2, 180, SO, S

Good athlete. Runs well. Good FBI. Mid-round talent

RECRUITS

Maquedius Bain – DT, 6-3, 308

Good frame, good athlete, runs really well but COD is not great. 3rd round talent.

Kendell Beckwith – ATH, 6-3, 230

Phenomenal jumbo athlete. Could be a linebacker, end or even spread QB. 1st round talent.

Josh Boutte – OL, 6-5, 305

Big bouncy athlete with good base. Plays with leverage. Very strong with good balance. 2nd round talent.

Tashawn Bower – DE, 6-5, 245

Good looking athlete. Long arms. Rangy. Good COD. Runs well. 3rd round talent.

Jeryl Brazil – CB, 5-10, 180

Amazing speed. 10.36 guy. Closes, turns hips, quick feet. Excellent cover corner. 1st round talent.

John Diarse – WR, 6-0, 202

High cut, good straight line, a little stiff, good hands. Late round talent.

Andy Dodd – OL, 6-4, 320

Good feet, gets to 2nd level easily, nimble. 3rd round talent.

Greg Gilmore – DT, 6-4, 275

Good athlete, good frame, a bit raw, average FBI. 3rd round talent.

Frank Herron – DE, 6-5, 260

Perfect frame for DE. Long arms, rangy, athletic, good speed and COD. 1st round talent.

Ricky Jefferson – CB, 6-0, 180

Decent size. Raw. Runs just okay. Mid-round talent.

Anthony Jennings – QB, 6-2, 205

Good athlete. Good in space with the ball. Strong, tough. Good arm. 3rd round talent.

Avery Peterson – WR, 6-2, 180

Brother of Patrick. Skinny long strider, a bit stiff but quick and good balance and leaping ability. Not a burner. Not great hands. Mid-round talent.

Melvin Jones – LB, 6-3, 246

Good straight line speed. Average COD. Might be overweight. Seems soft. Could play power RB or MLB. Late round talent.

Christian LaCouture – DT, 6-5, 290

Good athlete. Can bend at the waist, very flexible. Very good COD. Smart player who tracks the ball well. Third-round talent.

Quantavius Leslie – WR, 6-4, 190

Tall, well-built, good long speed, a bit of a long strider at times in close quarters, doesn’t run with vision, a little stiff when cutting. Mid-round talent.

K.J. Malone – OL, 6-4, 300

Son of Karl. Really athletic, fluid, in control of his body, great COD, very strong and mean road grader, bouncy feet. Prototype left guard. 1st round talent.

Lewis Neal – DE, 6-1, 232

Undersized. Not especially explosive. Average COD. Late round talent.

Michael Patterson – DE, 6-3, 230

Super quick and rangy. Elite COD. Explosive. High upside. 2nd round talent.

Ethan Pocic – OL, 6-7, 285

Great frame. Good athlete. Fluid knee bender with long arms. Best suited for left tackle. 1st round talent.

Hayden Rettig – QB, 6-4, 210

Good size. Slow release on the run. Average footwork. Strong arm when has time to set. 5th round talent.

Duke Riley – LB, 6-1, 215

Undersized, good athlete, great pursuit to the ball, great COD, 3rd round talent.

Rashard Robinson – CB, 6-2, 165

Stiff in the hips, average speed, average COD, safety, late round talent.

DeSean Smith – TE, 6-4, 225

H-back type with soft hands, decent speed and athleticism. Free agent talent.

Kevin Spears – WR, 6-3, 190

Great feet, good route runner, okay speed for his size, hand catcher, willing blocker, 3rd round talent.

Logan Stokes – TE, 6-4, 240

Blocking TE, average speed and athleticism, decent hands. Free agent talent.

Tre’Davious White – DB, 5-11, 175

Good feet, good athlete with good ball skills, slightly stiff in the hips, not a burner but good COD. Mid-round talent.

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3 Responses to Two-Deep and Recruiting Class Evaluation: LSU Tigers

  1. DT August 5, 2013 at 1:50 pm #

    Not bad. Though you should re-evaluate DeSean Smith. He arguably had the best hands in last years class, among receivers and tight ends.

    Plus Rashard Robinson, who the coaches think has top 10 talent. He has great speed and coverage ability, which he’s shown off at multiple camps. Most recently at Patrick Peterson’s camp where he was shutting down every receiver who went against him. Including the NFL receivers.

    Overall though you did a good job. It’s not easy to evaluate that many players.

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